Oct. 24, 2026
Amelia Earhart's Grandnephew Reveals Her Most Likely Fate | Mark Shaw & Bram Kleppner
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What does Amelia Earhart’s own family believe happened to her? Her grandnephew Bram Kleppner lays out the explanation he considers most likely, why he doubts the odds of the island search, and the surprising reason his brother would rather the plane remain lost. Bram would welcome a discovery, but his family does not share one view of closure. He explains what evidence would actually settle the mystery.
Bestselling author Mark Shaw joins Bram and host Tim to examine Dorothy Kilgallen’s July 6, 1937 account of Earhart’s disappearance, the hazards of the final flight, and who could claim the plane if it is ever found. They also explore the two women’s remarkable lives through Girl Around the World and Oceans to Cross by Bram’s mother, Amy M. Kleppner. This interview was recorded while the expedition discussed was underway; the guests present interpretations, not a confirmed discovery of the aircraft.
▬CHAPTERS▬
00:00 - Bram’s Surprising Amelia Earhart Connection
00:26 - Introducing Mark Shaw and Bram Kleppner
01:50 - Rediscovering Dorothy Kilgallen’s 1936 Journal
04:00 - Amelia Earhart’s Advice to Dorothy Kilgallen
07:16 - Becoming the Earhart Family Spokesperson
08:54 - Why Amy Kleppner Kept Her Family Link Private
15:34 - The Plane Search and a Family Divided on Closure
20:59 - Who Would Own Amelia Earhart’s Plane?
25:58 - Nikumaroro, Howland Island and the Fuel Question
27:31 - Dorothy Kilgallen’s July 1937 Newspaper Account
31:56 - Amelia’s Letters About Taking Risks
33:50 - Amelia Earhart’s Childhood and Family History
43:54 - Women’s Rights and the Lives Behind the Legends
54:25 - Radio Experiments and What Would Count as Proof
59:18 - The Photograph on Oceans to Cross
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Get the new book from Amelia Earhart's family, Oceans to Cross: https://link.amazon/B0fqXOKf0
What does Amelia Earhart’s own family believe happened to her? Her grandnephew Bram Kleppner lays out the explanation he considers most likely, why he doubts the odds of the island search, and the surprising reason his brother would rather the plane remain lost. Bram would welcome a discovery, but his family does not share one view of closure. He explains what evidence would actually settle the mystery.
Bestselling author Mark Shaw joins Bram and host Tim to examine Dorothy Kilgallen’s July 6, 1937 account of Earhart’s disappearance, the hazards of the final flight, and who could claim the plane if it is ever found. They also explore the two women’s remarkable lives through Girl Around the World and Oceans to Cross by Bram’s mother, Amy M. Kleppner. This interview was recorded while the expedition discussed was underway; the guests present interpretations, not a confirmed discovery of the aircraft.
▬CHAPTERS▬
00:00 - Bram’s Surprising Amelia Earhart Connection
00:26 - Introducing Mark Shaw and Bram Kleppner
01:50 - Rediscovering Dorothy Kilgallen’s 1936 Journal
04:00 - Amelia Earhart’s Advice to Dorothy Kilgallen
07:16 - Becoming the Earhart Family Spokesperson
08:54 - Why Amy Kleppner Kept Her Family Link Private
15:34 - The Plane Search and a Family Divided on Closure
20:59 - Who Would Own Amelia Earhart’s Plane?
25:58 - Nikumaroro, Howland Island and the Fuel Question
27:31 - Dorothy Kilgallen’s July 1937 Newspaper Account
31:56 - Amelia’s Letters About Taking Risks
33:50 - Amelia Earhart’s Childhood and Family History
43:54 - Women’s Rights and the Lives Behind the Legends
54:25 - Radio Experiments and What Would Count as Proof
59:18 - The Photograph on Oceans to Cross
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